The Golden Compass: Humility and Killing God

A startling amount of buzz and controversy has surrounded the upcoming release of New Line Cinema’s The Golden Compass starring Nicole Kidman. Blog posts galore and email chain letters have succeeded in spreading the word along with a very slick flash website and movie blog.

The Golden Compass is the first is book in a trilogy written by author Phillip Pullman. These books were inspired by The Chronicles of Narina, which Pullman hates because their Christian allegory. In his Children’s fantasy trilogy Pullman is seeking to promote atheism and attack organized religion.

Naturally many Christians are upset by this.

I am too, but I’m also asking:

How can we as followers of Jesus have a humble attitude about this? (Phil 2:5 -8)

How can we exploit this movie and use it for good? (Rom 12:21)

The Controlling, Domineering, Murdering Church

Pullman very overtly rejects religion because it has “involved persecution, massacre, slaughter on an industrial scale.” New Line Cinema has sought to water down the overtly anti-Christian themes in the novels. They don’t want to make a movie that offends but instead are seeking to spread a general “critique of all dogmatic organizations.”

Can’t we be humble and learn from this? Can’t we just admit, “Yes, it’s true, the Church has a record of being domineering, controlling and overly dogmatic. Many have murdered in Jesus’ name. We as Christians are sorry for our own actions, that actions of of Christian brothers and the lack of action we have taken to correct it.”

Admitting that we as people are broken doesn’t say that God is broken. On the contrary it affirms our need for God. God is perfect. We are not.

Boycott Religious Dialogue

The Catholic League has called for an official boycott of the movie.

Let me see if I understand this: There is a heavily promoted, high-budget major motion picture being released in December. It contains many references to religion and will most likely spark conversation and national debate on the topics of God, religion and the Church. People who seldom think about God and talk about him even less will now be engaged in a full fledged conversation.

And this is a bad thing?

Anyone who knows me knows I talk about Jesus all the time. I’ve experienced many people actually leave the room simply because I mention his name. These people hate to talk about religion and it has been very difficult to engage them in spiritual conversation. But when I have talked to them about The DaVinci Code we’ve been able to have a very engaging conversation about God and faith. This doesn’t make The DaVinci Code good. It means its a horribly researched, flagrant lie that I exploited to get to know some of my friends better.

Can’t we do the same thing with The Golden Compass?

Killing God

In the novels the characters finally find God and then they kill him.

The problem is they were just a bit late with this one.

Others have already killed God.

He rose from the dead.

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42 Responses to “The Golden Compass: Humility and Killing God”


  1. 1 Johannes November 7, 2007 at 3:25 pm

    Excellent points. All of ’em. Well done. I have nothing more to add.

  2. 2 Russ November 7, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    I agree wholeheartedly. It’s sad when we just totally shut off any and every valve that might lead to open and honest dialogue between believers and non-believers.

    Although, I’m not really interested in the movie for it’s entertainment value, I am interested in seeing what kind of conversation it stirs up.

  3. 3 Amanda November 7, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    Yes, I agree, too. This movie, from a filmaker’s mindset (I am a movie expert afterall), looks intriguing, though a bit flashy and “New Age-ish.” It could spark some very good conversation as you all have said. I think I’ll watch it when it comes out on DVD just so I can be prepared to bring it up if ever the occassion arises.

  4. 4 Isaac November 7, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    I’ve heard a lot of people say that the novels are incredibly well-written.

    I haven’t read them, personally, but one point several bloggers have repeated is that the characters don’t actually “kill God”, they kill an arrogant angel that claims to be god.

    I realize I’m pointing to myself here, but more than anything else, I think Christians need to stop being so nuts about rumors and actually do their homework before spreading craziness.

  5. 5 chris November 7, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    All I can say is that most anti-Golden Compass blogs out there just pass on comments from chain emails and so forth. People need to read the books before condemning them I would never dream of commenting on the Bible with having read it.

    In the third book the Amber Spyglass God/the oldest angel/ancient of days does die. The two children see him being attacked by monsters and fight them off, after that they see him trapped in a crystal glass cage, and seeing his lonely suffering condition release him from the cage but he’s so weak he dissolves into the air, if you consider this the murder of God, well so be it, call it a mercy killing.

    But to all those Golden Compass critics please read the books first before commenting, at least we could have a informed discussion about the books.

  6. 6 Peter Park November 7, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Great attitude about this movie.

  7. 7 Pete November 8, 2007 at 2:44 am

    Well said!

    I suspect the reason people leave the room when you mention His name (effectively a boycott) is because too many Christians boycott things like this movie.

    Isn’t it our role to live with everybody, not just within the bounds of our own “safe” community?

    Better I risk breaking my heart than to lock it away where it may never know the fullness of Love.

  8. 8 Kim November 8, 2007 at 8:57 am

    As a Christian, I cannot agree with a movie that promotes the killing of an entity that so many people believe in. It is not even just that it is killing God. If this movie were killing any entity from any religion, it is sure to upset the people that the religion pertains to. Everyone has thier own beliefs, which is fine. We would not be able to exist together without the knowledge of that fact. But anyone who disrespects other’s beliefs (whatever they may believe in) should be prepared for extreme discontent. I will go to see this movie because I, like everyone else, enjoy being entertained. This movie does not change my own beliefs in anyway, although I would not feel comfortable letting my own children watch it.

  9. 9 mwarnock37 November 8, 2007 at 10:02 am

    He DID rise from the dead!

    Why be afraid?

  10. 10 Billy Chia November 8, 2007 at 10:15 am

    @ Issac – Right on! I struggle writing this post becuase I just wanted to rant about all the unsubstantiated rumors people had sent my way. I made an effort to be a little more constructive and hopefully accomplished that.

    @Chris – Absolutely! I admire your integrity in saying that you would not critique the Bible having not read it. I haven’t read the books or seen the movie so I didn’t seek to critique them. This is more of a post about the media and conversation surrounding The Golden Compass than it is about the books themselves. I made an effort to link to news websites in my fact checking rather than random opinion blogs.

    As for “Killing God” I took that language from this article:

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58341

    Which I linked to earlier in my post. It contains several quotes from the book.

    @Pete – I agree. I personally make an effort to simply love people without an agenda. I believe that’s what Jesus did.

    When people get to know me they don’t find that too offensive, but it is actions like boycotting, arguing and loveless condemnation that has caused them to close their ears at the mere mention of religion. I can’t just blame other Christians as I’ve been way guilty of these attitudes as well.

  11. 12 Billy Chia November 8, 2007 at 11:23 am

    Bobby,
    Thanx for the link. Here are some thoughts:

    “Pullman spends more time–far more, I suspect–contemplating the divine, the nature of God, and how we conceive of our relationship to God than most Christians do in an entire lifetime.”

    -yeah, my point exactly. I believe these books and movies can really propel some good conversation.

    “And my contention, as a scholar, a Christian, and someone who has read the trilogy more times than I can count, is that the telos of Pullman’s “His Dark Materials” is to save God, not kill him.”

    Hmmm… God needs our Salvation? Last time I check it was the other way around.

    “I suspect that Philip Pullman might rather introduce them to a vision of the divine that will speak to their lives and a generation next who craves a God for our times.”

    Pullman is an proud atheist/agnostic. He has publicly stated “if there is a God then he deserves to be put down and rebelled against.” and then he confirmed it in this interview with BBC:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/breakfast_with_frost/1785121.stm

    I suspect the last thing Pullman wants to do is give a “vision of the divine.” It would be much more accurate to say he seeks to “kill the image of the divine.” At a bare minimum rebel again the divine.

    Donna Freitas should really do her homework.

  12. 13 Al Sr. November 8, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Awsome posting Billy, I could not have said it better, thank you

  13. 14 Miguel Carpizo November 8, 2007 at 5:32 pm

    “Most people I meet assume that Christian mean very conservative, entrenched in their thinking, antigay, antichoice, angry, violent, illogical, empire builders; they want to convert everyone, and they generally cannot live peacefully with anyone who doesn’t believe what they believe” (an outsider) We have become famous for what we oppose, rather than who we are. In our national surveys with young people, we found three most common perceptions of present-day Christianity are antihomosexual (an image held by 91 percent of young outsiders), judgmental (87 percent), and hypocritical (85 percent). These big three are followed by the following negative perceptions, embraced by a majority of young adults: [and when the book refers to young adults is between 18 to 29 years old] old fashioned, too involved in politics, out of touch with reality, insensitive to others, boring, not accepting of other faiths, and confusing. Only a small percentage of outsiders strongly believe that the labels ‘respect, love, and trust’ describe Christianity.”…..Taken from the book Unchristian by David Kinnaman.
    Why we need to judge each other? Why as a protestant cannot learn from a Catholic?Can I be open to learn from an atheist? Can I learn from people outside of the church?…..if I was just open to learn from others…….

  14. 15 JVP November 8, 2007 at 10:31 pm

    Just to bring up an aspect that hasn’t been explicitly discussed in these comments: the movie is targeted toward children. That alone makes it very different from _The DaVinci Code_.

  15. 16 Billy Chia November 9, 2007 at 12:45 am

    Miguel,
    Yes, there is always a lesson to be learned. Christians can learn from non-Christians.

    Jonathon,
    Great point! In many ways The Golden Compass is far different from the DaVinci code.

    As I’ve said earlier in the comments, this is a post about the media surrounding the book, not so much the book itself. It is adults who have sent countless email forwards and adults who have posted on their blogs. In this way The Golden Compass is extremely similar to The DaVinci Code.

    Although to move onto the tangent of Children – Christian parents have a great responsibility. Eve-Maire is learning about Greek mythology and also King Tut in school. We are teaching her that the religious beliefs concerning Greek gods and Egyptian mummification are wrong. It would be negligent to omit this from the discussion. When she watches the Care Bears on TV we tell her, “This is make believe, the Bible is true.”

    Parents should have continual dialogue with their children concerning all things true and untrue.

    My goal would be that starting the earliest age possible my daughters would learn the truth about God in the hopes that by the time they got to college they’d know how to defend their faith.

  16. 17 Chris A November 10, 2007 at 1:38 am

    OK. Let me start this off by stating: I have not read these books; I am only writing this because some of the dialogue, concerning the books/movie and Christianity, concerns me.

    To: The other Chris
    Notice, assuming the names you used were quoted from the book, that the author took care to refer to the Christian God, and not to a potter woman or titan of some sort.
    Also, how offensive is it that this books pretense is “your God is weak”. I must say that pagans would, and have, attack me for saying something of this sort.

    To: Pete
    You’re correct, in that it is not our role to ignore others, and hide inside a shell. However, we, as Christians, should not support a movie of this sort. Nor should we condone or ignore its message.

    To: Kim
    Why go see the movie? You’ll only be giving money to a man whose wish is to raise a generation of anarchic atheists. A dismal future indeed.

    To: Miguel
    Wow, what a post. Let’s go point by point.

    Point 1.”Most people I meet assume that Christian mean very conservative, entrenched in their thinking, antigay, antichoice, angry, violent, illogical, empire builders; they want to convert everyone, and they generally cannot live peacefully with anyone who doesn’t believe what they believe” (an outsider)”

    Response: Alright, point taken, we’re too prude for the general population. However, we are not anti-gay or anti-choice. What we are, is a group of people who try to follow God’s laws.
    1. God told us that homosexuality is a sin, and that He finds it detestable. This is written several times in the Bible. This does not mean that we’re “anti-gay”. Nor does it mean that we hate the people who practice that lifestyle. It means that we pray for the, lost, souls of those involved in that, wicked, practice.
    2. Pro-choice, as the liberal media has termed the support of abortion, is nothing more than the belief that the slaughter of an unborn child is acceptable. I find it funny that they get to have a PC name, but try to label Pro Lifers as “anti-abortion”. Personally… I’m pro choice. This statement meaning that i am a proponent of the belief that it’s your choice to have sex, and that, if you don’t want a kid, then don’t have sex.
    3. As for Christians being “angry, violent, illogical, empire builders.” Many of the traits listed are innate human traits that are found within humanity as a whole. True, there are Christians who display these traits, however, there are also Muslims, Jews, Pagans, Wiccans, Buddhists, Jains, Taoists, and whatever other religion you wish to add, who share these traits. Saying that these flaws are restricted to those of the Christian faith is equivalent to saying that only Christians have ears.
    4. You also stated “; they want to convert everyone, and they generally cannot live peacefully with anyone who doesn’t believe what they believe.” Now, do we want to convert everyone? Yes! Wouldn’t you want to save everyone if you knew that you had the chance? Can we “not live peacefully with anyone who doesn’t believe what [we] believe”? Absolutely not the case. Our religion teaches us to live peacefully with everyone. Read “The Good Samaratin” sometime. Or read Jesus’ answer to “what is the greatest Commandment?”.
    5. As for young people having twisted views of the Christian faith. What else would you expect from an atheist nation? God is being banished from our every day lives, and we’re just sitting back and taking it. This country was founded as a Christian country. Don’t let a bunch of Atheist professors tell you anything different. They’re just mad that they can’t go back and change things. Yes, religious freedom is important, however, sacrificing our beliefs and the country made for us is despicable.

    ——————————————————————–

    In summation. I agree with JVP. This movie / series of books is dangerous to the minds of young children. This decision is derived from what I’ve seen in reviews and rants. It teaches witchcraft (the morphing of humans into animals), and deicide. I am appalled that this was allowed to be produced. What would all the activists say if I made a movie saying that kids can smoke and that the earth should be pillaged. (And no, I do not endorse such actions. I chose those examples because they’re horrible.) This movie / book series promotes that kind of a feeling towards our faith. Would the world allow a movie where Allah and Mohammad need the help of children because they are too weak to fend for themselves? I think not.

  17. 18 Sarah Chia November 10, 2007 at 8:50 pm

    “This movie / series of books is dangerous to the minds of young children.” -from Chris A.

    I don’t think that anyone who frequents around here would disagree with you that if a child is unsupervised and let loose, then this is dangerous.

    The point is that parents have a responsibility to train their children to live effectively in this world.

    That means that we train them to budget their money and to be responsible for their commitments and to look both ways before crossing the street and anything that they need in life to be successful and discerning.

    Part of that is to help them understand the culture they live in and to hold firm to their beliefs while in the culture.

    I think the Apostle Paul would go see the movie and if he had had kids he probably would have taught them about it because he knows that understanding a culture and being familiar with the literary works of it is a great way to witness to unbelievers. (See Acts 17:22-23 and Titus 1:12)

  18. 19 Cathy November 11, 2007 at 12:23 am

    Perhaps those who follow Jesus could use stuff like this movie in a way similar to a confessional as in Blue Like Jazz.

  19. 20 poser god November 11, 2007 at 9:17 pm

    I created diversity because I love complexity.

    The more you try to cling to one religion, the farther you drift away from me.

  20. 21 worshipcity November 11, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Wow, God himself popped in here to comment on your blog Billy! That’s insane.

    My only comment to add here is to further comment the on the ‘target audience’ here that the movie is aimed at and unfortunately what I’ve seen happen far too often with parents. Based upon what I’ve read (reading the media not the books) this movie is a children’s movie based upon a book not promoting something (like CS Lewis was in with Narnia) but trying to demote something: organized religion, Christianity, etc. NOW from what I have read, there are some positive things this movie brings up that are worthwhile! I personally feel simpling banning it is a horrible approach. However, as a student leader I see all too often parents blindly purchasing music, movies, games, etc. for their children.
    I personally LOVE movies like this. As Billy stated before, movies like the DaVinci Code are great conversation pieces! My take is that the proper response is education. Parents should know the basis of the movie and should be encouraged to watch it with their kids and have a dialog about it over ice cream and burgers afterwards! HAHA.

  21. 22 Billy Chia November 11, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    Chris,
    Yes, these books do specifically refer to Yahweh, the one and only true God of the Bible. Not, Allah or Krishnah. So when they “kill God” (or “mercy kill God”) They are killing Yahweh. As I said, they’re a bit late with this one. Other people already killed God and he rose from the dead.

    Sarah,
    You are so awesome. I am so blessed to be married to you and I love parenting with you.

    See how awesome my wife is guys?!

    Conner,
    Oh, that’s not Yahweh, just some poser…

    As for your post.
    Right on man!!! How much other junk to parents subject their kids to? It breaks my heart sometimes.

    If people are gonna boycott this movie they should at least be consistent and rant about all the other ways you are sheltering their children from the world.

    Although I totally used this movie last night to talk to adults! I was at Biaggi’s where if you say, “Hey who wants to talk about God?” people will leave the room. But, if you say, “Have you heard to this new movie, The Golden Compass?” people will open up in discussion and share their religious views because it’s not so vulnerable – they’re not talking about their own deeply held religious beliefs they are talking about a movie and it’s more candid and safe for people.

    Cathy,
    Yeah I would say reading Blue Like Jazz was very influential in me taking a more honest attitude about my faith.

    poser god,
    I found it amusing that “Satan” also commented on my blog (which I deleted because he couldn’t obey the general etiquette for posting. Hint: why would you cuss on my blog and expect to not get deleted?)

    Your logic is flawed. In the Bible, Yahweh is huge on worshiping Him alone and having no other God’s but him. I know post modern relativism is trendy, that doesn’t mean it’s right.

    I’m not a huge fan of anonymous comments and tend to delete them as well. Next time just leave your name and a real email address. We can have a real conversation about it. If your not willing to backup your opinion with your actual name or website I’m left to understand that you don’t really believe what you wrote.

  22. 23 worshipcity November 12, 2007 at 9:31 am

    yeah I think poser god/god needs a lower case “g.”
    Obviously he/she isn’t speaking on behalf of the God we so reference here on this blog 🙂

  23. 24 Greg Allen November 12, 2007 at 11:55 am

    Billy,

    I just stole the following line from you:

    Admitting that we as people are broken doesn’t say that God is broken. On the contrary it affirms our need for God. God is perfect. We are not.

    And I’m going to say it over and over and over and over and over.

    -Greg

  24. 25 Billy Chia November 13, 2007 at 10:50 am

    Greg,
    Steal away bro 🙂 That’s why I post stuff, becuase I thinks it good and worthy of being shared.

    to “god,”

    Like I said bro, I anonymous comments don’t fly around here. However I love your questions and although I’m a busy guy I would love to take the time to further the discussion with you.

    If you’d like to leave a comment with a real email address I’d love to email you back with a honest, and candid answers. My emails bounced back from the fake address you sent me.

    Calling yourself “God” also will not fly. I’ll leave your comment up if you want to use your initials or some other pseudo name. You’ll need to use a real email address I can contact you with.

  25. 26 Kara November 13, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    I think that a believer who is firm in their theology would not be swayed. I could never suggest my kiddos, youth,family, or friends to go and see a movie that would be in direct contradiction to the bible. It’s too confusing to try and assimilate the world’s view while trying to learn godly principles. I agree that it could spark some great conversations, maybe even help convince others that God is real and True. I think that having a well-thought out answer to legitimate questions is great (1Peter 4-15-16). But when does it become pearls before swine? I’m really asking, by the way. It’s very clear in the bible that we are to stay away from certain things (2Timothy 3:1-9). I wonder whether this Pullman guy just wants to tear us apart, and cause us to do the same to each other. I’ve been doing a study of Matthew and have found myself really questioning when I should put ‘sacred’ stuff out there for the world. The 7th chapter of Matthew is really troubling me today, and I just wonder how do we know when we’re wasting God’s gifts? Are we ever wasting God’s gifts?

  26. 27 Billy Chia November 13, 2007 at 6:08 pm

    Kara,
    Great questions.

    Issiah encourages us that God’s word will not return to him void.

    Not casting our pearls before the pigs probably also involves being good stewards of our time and resources.

  27. 28 Patrick Roberts November 15, 2007 at 10:59 pm

    well said, God is so great that whatever actions people take to explicitly resist Him end up strengthening His cause… goes to show how puny men’s efforts are at resisting the reality of Him.

    even the idea that there are spiritual realities supports the fact that God is.

  28. 29 Thomas November 15, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    I feel nothing but darkness when i read the things that this author says about God and anything related to him. Compared to the feeling you get while reading something from the bible or somethings related to it, which brings peace and joy. The adversary will obviously never stop trying to find ways to get people to follow him to darkness away from He who gave them life.

    I have a very hard time understanding atheists. If you just open your eyes, you will realize that this world didn’t fall together. I am in the medical field, and studying medicine only strengthened my belief in God. The way the body works is so amazing, it actually heals itself! Stop and actually think about that. God created this earth and oversees it, one day he will return like the apostles said in the book of Acts that He would return in the manner they had just seen Him leave.

    The man is obviously angry with him for some reason, maybe something from his childhood happened and he figured he would blame God for it. I’d be interested to hear why he is so bitter towards God. If anyone has any information I would like to hear this.

    There is a reason that the majority of people in this world believe in a supreme being. Because there is one! Another example is the dark ages, nothing good happened during that time! no art, music, inventions, etc. Now look at the advances in the world since the end of those dark ages, not just to the arts but to medicine technology , the list is endless.

  29. 30 Monique November 16, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    Quote: “Killing God
    In the novels the characters finally find God and then they kill him.

    The problem is they were just a bit late with this one.

    Others have already killed God.

    He rose from the dead.”

    Amen.

  30. 31 Don November 17, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    I will say as an thinking and discerning adult and Christian, I can watch a movie or read a book such as this and not allow it to convert me to the author’s misguided belielfs. I feel very sorry for him.

    As far as the average Christian, I am concerned that they can easily be influenced because of the general lack of knowledge of the contents of the bible. I am also concerned about those that have never considered the faith or are starting to and become disenchanted. I do believe though that those that would have come to God will anyway. This is an attack on God, make no mistake about it. I have had several discussions with my children about the books and the movie and they have taken it upon themselves to try to warn their friends.

    I would caution those that have posted that they believe they are strong enough to withstand the enemies attack. Scripture warns us not to undergo unnecessary temptation or be around evil. He said we have to live in the world but not be of the world. Going to the movie and reading the books in their entirety is ignoring warnings. Others will tell you that is the sign of a gullible mind. Well then welcome it because you will be enjoying a relationship with God.

  31. 32 W.E.B. Adamant November 24, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    While I disagree with some of your sentiments, I appreciate your well-reasoned approach to the controversy. Thank you for addressing the issues from a different point of view than many will.

  32. 33 Amanda Lowell November 28, 2007 at 8:21 pm

    I’m amazed nobody seems to be talking about how this man’s books
    are really SATANIC and not only “atheist”. He’s anti-God, and
    there are several things in his books that point to that fact.

  33. 34 Cassidy November 29, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Ok, so here’s ny opoion on this. I konw I’m just a little kid and what kids have to say don’t matter. But it does. So I’ve read one book by Phillip Pullman of this series and when I did I was 9 yrs. old, and in no way did I think it was about killing god. I am a christian. And I do believe in god. And honestly what ou saying I don’t think is true. I honestly don’t. And besides you people need to think about the consiquences of this. Do you think he or any film maker a matter of fact would og and put a movie out there about killing god, where: 1. No parents would take their children to go see, and 2. We’re there is a strong possibility he could get sued for by complaing parents and relatives. NO! I don’t think so. You can call me a dumb child. I don’t care. You can say I don’t know what I’m saying cause I’m small and a child, but i don’t care. This is my opioion and honestly I DON’T CARE.

  34. 35 Sarah Chia November 30, 2007 at 6:56 am

    Cassidy,

    I hope you aren’t surfing around the internet on your own.

    This is exactly the reason that people are concerned about the movie.

    Unfortunately, so many parents don’t consider what a movie’s message is before taking their children or allowing their children to see it for the entertainment value.

    Of course, as we all know, Hollywood doesn’t shy away from insulting and deriding Christianity.

    So, as you get older, you’ll see that many parents don’t care, and for that matter neither does Hollywood. Or for that matter, neither do you.

    I hope you have someone to talk about the books with so that if you choose to read more, you’ll be able to understand what this guy is talking about.

    And by the way…there’s really nothing illegal about making such a movie, so the whole suing part isn’t anything that would fly.

  35. 36 I love Jesus!!!!! December 6, 2007 at 6:50 pm

    I like how you said at the end that others have killed God, He rose from the dead.

  36. 37 Jane Rosenbaum December 12, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    Just because a movie is inspired by a book, doesn’t mean you have to take it strictly for what the book says. That’s the beauty of fiction. You can let it mean whatever you feel it means.

    Having seen the movie, I have to admit that I really enjoyed it. It bothers me that some of my friends refuse to see it because “they kill God!” First of all, that doesn’t happen in this movie. And second, although not having read the books (but read excerpts and quotes from them), it appears that the death of a fictional god occurs, but our Christian God isn’t -killed-. What’s the fuss all about? If you’re that worried, reaffirm your children that OUR God is real, and that movies are made-up. Take it at entertainment value, and quit with the close-minded fear.

    It’s a fictional movie that will inspire creativity and imagination.
    Yes, it’s inspired by a book trilogy written by a man who is an atheist; does that mean it’s going to convert us? People should stop being so afraid that fiction will threaten their faith. Open your minds, and allow books/movies like these to promote deeper thought into your own faith… and make it stronger.

  37. 38 Jason K December 14, 2007 at 10:55 am

    (Disclaimer: I am not a Christian, though I was raised in a Christian household)

    I feel people are missing the point of the story in this series of books, and these email chains going around and fervent blog postings are just exacerbating the matter. Unless you have actually read the books, you really can not make judgment or comment IMO.

    The books *DO NOT* explicitly attack Christianity, nor any religion. What they do, is attack dogma. The protagonists of the book do not “kill God”, they kill an arrogant angel who is pretending to be god. Is this not why Lucifer was cast down according to the Bible?

    The point of the books is that you should follow your own free-will and not allow dogmatic organizations (religious or otherwise) to exert their control over your thoughts and beliefs. To me, this message does not run contrary to Christianity at all, for according to Scripture, one can only be truly saved by faith and faith alone – religious dogma will not get you into heaven.

    Basically, the book is attacking the Roman Catholic church of the time and other dogmatic religious organizations, **but not** their Christian teachings. teachings. The authour believes people should follow their own hearts and minds as to what they believe rather than attempt to be controlled by large organizations. Frankly, I agree.

  38. 39 worshipcity December 14, 2007 at 11:29 am

    I don’t have any problems with free speech or viewpoints that contradict mine. I think I get hung up more on the cultural response to this. I am a Christian. I don’t agree with Pullman but I hear he writes incredible fantasy. Reading his books will not change my mind regarding God just as reading any other fiction book with a female protagonist will not cause me to fall out of love with my wife.
    The problem I have with it is the marketing to children. I have not read his books but from reading his own interviews, his website, from Christians and people who could care less about religion who have read the books, it seems the material isn’t most appropriate for them. Add on to it the rebranding campaign in America that makes it look just like Chronicles of Narnia is troublesome. It’s more of a call to parents to be proactive in what comes to your children. I don’t care if you let them see Compass or not but be active and involved in your child’s life so that they’re not getting their thinking from movies or video games no matter who’s making them.

  39. 40 Taylor February 17, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    People causing a big commotion over the religious theme of this story is a very silly thing indeed.
    We all live in a very silly world.


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